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Date: Wed, 13 Apr 94 04:30:12 PDT
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Ham-Policy Digest           Wed, 13 Apr 94       Volume 94 : Issue  170

Today's Topics:
                     ARRL rpt on preferred calls
               Green Card Lottery- Final One? (2 msgs)
                         Incentive Licensing
                           LICENSING DELAYS
                               MARYMAC,

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Date: 13 Apr 1994 01:10:21 GMT
From: swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.umbc.edu!eff!news.kei.com!yeshua.marcam.com!zip.eecs.umich.edu!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!news1.@@ihnp4.ucsd.edu
Subject: ARRL rpt on preferred calls
To: [e-mail]

Well, it sounds fairly reasonable except for one clause, that being (of
course) the stipulation that calls be limited to the current call
district.

Naturally, coming from Newington (in the 1 district) I would expect this
from their committee.  1 area and 0 area calls are the most desireable
as the most easily spell english language words.  For example :

 N1CE, W1SE, WH0A, N0CALL, WH0OPS and W1NS all come to mind as rather
interesting and fun calls.

If the poor folks stuck in 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,and 9 had a chance at these
calls, they would be gone in a flash!

Petition the league so they give us all a chance!

73 =paul= wb ==> 8 <== zjl

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Date: 12 Apr 94 10:55:16 GMT
From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!paladin.american.edu!hookup!news2.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.clark.net![e-mail]
Subject: Green Card Lottery- Final One?
To: [e-mail]

Laurence Canter ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Green Card Lottery 1994 May Be The Last One!
: THE DEADLINE HAS BEEN ANNOUNCED.

This sorts of stuff shoulddn't be here. This guy jump from Win.net to
Netcom and now is posting from Indirect.com. I guesst Netcom kicks him
out too. This guy neeed to be stop.

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Joseph A. Liu ([e-mail])
Clark Internet Services, Inc.
Information Superhighway 2000

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Date: 12 Apr 1994 08:13:49 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!emory!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!paladin.american.edu!hookup!news2.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!indirect.com![e-mail]
Subject: Green Card Lottery- Final One?
To: [e-mail]

Green Card Lottery 1994 May Be The Last One!
THE DEADLINE HAS BEEN ANNOUNCED.

The Green Card Lottery is a completely legal program giving away a
certain annual allotment of Green Cards to persons born in certain
countries. The lottery program was scheduled to continue on a
permanent basis.  However, recently, Senator Alan J Simpson
introduced a bill into the U. S. Congress which could end any future
lotteries. THE 1994 LOTTERY IS SCHEDULED TO TAKE PLACE
SOON, BUT IT MAY BE THE VERY LAST ONE.

PERSONS BORN IN MOST COUNTRIES QUALIFY, MANY FOR
FIRST TIME.

The only countries NOT qualifying  are: Mexico; India; P.R. China;
Taiwan, Philippines, North Korea, Canada, United Kingdom (except
Northern Ireland), Jamaica, Domican Republic, El Salvador and
Vietnam.

Lottery registration will take place soon.  55,000 Green Cards will be
given to those who register correctly.  NO JOB IS REQUIRED.

THERE IS A STRICT JUNE DEADLINE. THE TIME TO START IS
NOW!!

For FREE information via Email, send request to
[e-mail]


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Canter & Siegel, Immigration Attorneys
3333 E Camelback Road, Ste 250, Phoenix AZ  85018  USA
[e-mail]   telephone [phone]  Fax [phone]

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Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 17:23:27 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!news.moneng.mei.com!uwm.edu!mixcom.com![e-mail]
Subject: Incentive Licensing
To: [e-mail]

In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Bill Turner) writes:

>Turn your nose up if you will, but there are those of us
>who think that having a license to transmit should be evidence of a
>strong desire to learn about radio and all that goes with it.

I agree.  Now, if we could just define (and get everyone to agree)
what "all that goes with it" means.

>Personally, if they want to eliminate the CW requirement that would be
>fine with me.  But I would like to see the FCC require some showing of
>real dedication to the art and science of RADIO and not just the desire
>to yak on the air.

No art.  No mystery.  Just sound scientific principles and the
engineering required for their practical realization.

>  For chit-chat, the telephone works fine, maybe
>better.  Or the Internet, for heaven's sake.  An Amateur Radio license
>should be issued only to people who are interested in radio itself.
>
>Flame deflectors are on...
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

As well they should be! ;-))

I'll quote you again: "An Amateur Radio license should be issued to people
who are interested in radio itself."  I DISSAGREE!

Amateur radio needs to evolve BEYOND just "radio" and realize that what
we are really involved with is communications.  This includes the
sciences of RF Theory, circuit design, analog and digital design,
data transfer protocols and computer science.  IMO, amateur radio testing
and amateur radio in general needs to realize this and become a part of
1990s technology.

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  \    /      N9SQB, ARRL, Amateur Radio
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Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 19:28:20 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.msfc.nasa.gov!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!usenet.ucs.indiana.edu!master.cs.rose-hulman.edu!e106-2.rose-hulman.edu!supervisor@@
Subject: LICENSING DELAYS
To: [e-mail]

    Im just getting into this medium, and this is the first day I have
checked into this "net", so mabe this has all been hashed out and the FCC
will begin May first with getting licenses back to our new hams in two
weeks.  But 12 weeks is absolutely assinine.  I understand that there are
4 people in Gettysberg working on 610 apps.  No they probably cant handle
the influx of requests.
#1  Lets cut the beaurocratic excuses and get this mess cleaned up.
#2  Lets get our public servants organized so that they can do their
    jobs effeciantly for the nation.

Where is our ARRL ????  What are our ARRL lawers in washington doing?
Again we dont want to hear all the reasons and excuses! lets get something
done! NOW!

    I once had a commanding officer in the navy tell his junior officers;
Don't bring me problems, damn it, bring me solutions!

Solution # 1
      ARRL go to washimgton to the FCC and TELL them that the league will
cordinate the volenteers from the amateur fraternity to come to Gettsyberg
and provide the labor to get them up to date.  No excuses accepted.
If they will not accept our help, then the league should sue the FCC in court
to accept the help and start a national public awareness campaine to expose
this mess.

Solution # 2
    Offer, at no cost to the government, to study the processing
procedures and come up with a list of solutions to make them more
effeciant.


    No I'm not waiting myself for a license.  I've    held mine for
34 years.  But I do have a group of Boy Scouts who have worked sence last
Oct. to pass their exams in Feb. and are still waiting like I'm sure
hundreds, thousands of others are for their first ticket.  I  think MY
league should be doing something, NOW!

Dave Gahimer
K9ZCE

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Date: 12 Apr 94 18:05:23 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com![e-mail]
Subject: MARYMAC,
To: [e-mail]

Allan W. Ng ([e-mail]) wrote:
: All: Can someone please give me the phone number for MaryMac?

The company is MaryMac located in Kady, TX.
Their number is 1-800-231-3680.

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Date: Tue, 12 Apr 1994 12:44:27 GMT
From: brunix!pstc3![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>■¿
Subject : Re: Incentive Licensing

In article <[e-mail]>,
    [e-mail] (Dan Pickersgill) writes:

|> While I do feel that we need some level of 'appliance operator' to meet
|> the Public Service needs of the Service, those that wish to advance to
|> higher levels and privileges should show a desire to learn more about
|> Radio in general.

While I can basically agree with you, evidence today shows that those who
wish to advance to higher levels aren't necessarily interested in learning
more about radio in general; rather, they memorize the question pool and
increase their code proficiency - but really don't *learn* anything.

(ObCodeReference: Yes Dan, you can still increase your code proficiency
and be a lid. Code is good! Code is bad! Nyah! Nyah!)

When I was first introduced to the hobby 10 years ago, I was introduced
to many Amateur Extras who could answer any of my questions. The AE was,
in a sense, a vat of knowledge who, if s/he didn't happen to know the
answer to a question, knew another AE who did. I respected these people;
they represented the pinnacle of amateur radio, and set an example of
what I should strive to become myself.


Today, I hear "Extras" asking questions like "how do I build a dipole?"
Why? Do these people represent that same pinnacle of amateur radio which
I once respected? I don't think so.


MD
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-- Michael P. Deignan
-- RI Center For Political Incorrectness & Environment Ignorance
-- 'Have you hugged your chainsaw today?'

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Date: 13 Apr 94 09:41:00 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!wariat.org!amcomp![e-mail]
To: [e-mail]

References <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>, <[e-mail]>
Subject : Re: Incentive Licensing

[e-mail] (Michael P. Deignan) writes:

>In article <[e-mail]>,
>    [e-mail] (Dan Pickersgill) writes:
>
>|> While I do feel that we need some level of 'appliance operator' to meet
>|> the Public Service needs of the Service, those that wish to advance to
>|> higher levels and privileges should show a desire to learn more about
>|> Radio in general.
>
>While I can basically agree with you, evidence today shows that those who
>wish to advance to higher levels aren't necessarily interested in learning
>more about radio in general; rather, they memorize the question pool and
>increase their code proficiency - but really don't *learn* anything.
>
>(ObCodeReference: Yes Dan, you can still increase your code proficiency
>and be a lid. Code is good! Code is bad! Nyah! Nyah!)
>
>When I was first introduced to the hobby 10 years ago, I was introduced
>to many Amateur Extras who could answer any of my questions. The AE was,
>in a sense, a vat of knowledge who, if s/he didn't happen to know the
>answer to a question, knew another AE who did. I respected these people;
>they represented the pinnacle of amateur radio, and set an example of
>what I should strive to become myself.

The same is basically how I got interested in ham radio. I was in a novice
class (about 6 years ago or so) and passed the 5 WPM on straight copy,
then work forced me to drop out before taking the written.

And I could not agree more about the 'old time' Extras.

>Today, I hear "Extras" asking questions like "how do I build a dipole?"
>Why? Do these people represent that same pinnacle of amateur radio which
>I once respected? I don't think so.

Surprise, again we agree.

Dan N8PKV
--
The president [Clinton - Sworn Defender of the US Constitution] said he
directed advisers to craft a policy allowing police to search public
housing for weapons in the wake of a federal court order barring Chicago
officials from conducting sweeps without search warrants.
-Source AP/Chicago Tribune 4/10/94

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